Every other Saigon Vs Goku and Vegeta. And even so…Vegeta did 'technically' win this fight…. Overall Earth wins, Goku stated that he would beat Vegeta next time, giving Vegeta the win but in Vegeta's mind, he still lost to Goku. Goku never even pulled out kk on Broly, and Vegeta never went evo. It was beaten and completely screwed over for months after that fight. Goku would win easily even Vegeta admitted it. All i'm saying is that he fared much better against Bills under his own power than the, supposedly, superior Goku did. It's already been established early about Goku. He also seems to be better at energy conservation, as he was the first to discover the Full Power Super Saiyan form. The Duplicate Vegeta! Vegeta even killed him before the fight started lol. I can't recall anyone, besides human or extremely weak enemies, that Goku has held back on, especially when he was in danger of losing…as he was against Bills. While vegeta always rely on his raw talent until goku came, where he push his body to the limit. This poll is now closed. Vegeta 'technically' won it since Goku ended up knocked out in the end. Season 1. Connect now. Given the fact that the fight was pretty even, even though Vegeta was blood lusted and amped by babidi, he even makes mention of how before the amp he realized Goku in his SS2 state was stronger then he was, 13.20 into the vid. Goku should really always win. Vegeta would have killed Goku regardless if it wasn't for outside help. and what a better way to fire up the rivalry by including the protagonists rival into the fray! 150 x 50 = 7500. Given the fact that the fight was pretty evenly matched, even though Vegeta was blood lusted and amped by babidi, he also makes mention of how before the amp he realized Goku in his SS2 state was stronger then he was, 13.20 into the vid. If they were to fight at base, I believe Goku could win. 4). I know this fight is only taking them as they were at the end of Z, but in BotG, Vegeta showed a clear superiority over Goku. Battle. Goku vs. Thus, in order for your arguments to hold more weight than they do, Vegeta would have to be Goku's clear superior. EP 1 A Peacetime Reward: Who Gets the 100,000,000 Zeni? 7 0. Relevance. Speaking on that, he even wanted to end the series after namek but was compelled by fans, and bosses alike to continue on. but i would like to see vegeta win one. Goku adapting with instinct, Vegeta adapting with intelligence. Goku has never fought Vegeta on completely fair grounds. His arrogance comes only to opponent he underestimate, by the time mentioned in OP, he already knows what Goku is capable of. Has a past of holding own against much more powerful apponents. After Yajirobe removes Vegeta’s tail, he states he STILL has enough power to kill every last one of them, demonstrating it by knocking out Yajirobe and Krillin and then going after Gohan. They are physical fighters in a universe that has crazy non-physical powers which they are not prepared for. Super Saiyan 3 Goku was destroyed by Bills, and needed (help) to go Super Saiyan god. With Dragon Ball Z Resurrection F finally making it so Goku & Vegeta are on the same level, based on their weaknesses, who do you think will win a fight?! 7 years ago. People take this s Vegeta being the best forever and always has been! Lost your password? © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Vegeta says could beat Dabura, and Goku was equal to Vegeta even after Vegeta … Yeah, the situations were completely different but the results still speak for something. a less powerful character managing to hit someone when he gets angry and surprises the someone). It's irrelevant either way, since we are talking the end of DBZ not BotG. 4 years ago. Equal power levels, no 'funny' business... @cybrilious4: Vegeta definitely outmatches Goku in terms of Ki versatility. Goku's will VS Vegeta's determination and pride. Vegeta didnt even look SSJ2 (although Goku didnt had any lightning when he transformed into SSJ2 as well, so is arguable). Supreme Kai vs Cooler - Supreme kai, no question at all, when vegeta says "sounds like majin buu would make a good saiyan" supreme kai mentions that the four supreme kais couldn't stop him, and that each … Completely different situations that has happened in the past a few times (i.e. Meh. So that's probably why he was able to achieve SSJ3 while Vegeta couldn't. Goku was named Kakarot at birth. Epic tag team. Goku is obviously stronger due to absorbing SSJG, and Vegeta is stronger with the rage boost. Not sure. On the flipside, Vegeta defeating Moro ignores the Ultra Instinct … Once Goku was beat then the earthling and Gohan beat Vegeta. Whereas you think it was Toriyama' intend to show that Vegeta is now stronger than Goku or not, you dont have any proof of that, while there is plenty of Goku still being the stronger one. Also, before Gohan and the others (besides Vegeta) knew anything about SSJG, they were all happy and excited when Goku showed up, as though they thought he had a chance. Dragon Ball Super introduced one of the most powerful transformations ever seen in the Saiyan race and quite surprisingly, it was Vegeta, and not Goku, who figured it out.It gave the Saiyan Prince the kind of energy only Gods possess. If they are even is power level and such, Vegeta should win.Vegeta has beaten Goku every time they have fought. VS. ... Who Would Win? Gohan already had all his hidden power drawn out and then some. I tend to think otherwise. Had they not been there, Goku would be dead. See where i'm going with this? When did this happen? A Super Saiyan 3 Goku was completely outclassed and toyed with by Bills. But the point I am trying to make is , Vegeta was always pretty much self-taught when it came to combat, he is very limited on developing new technique which is why he never attained SSJ3. Vegeta has never beaten Goku? (Yes you could say Goku had help, but Vegeta did too; he had Nappa.). Add photo 1 Intro 2 Intro 3 Goku 4 Vegeta 5 Naruto 6 Sasuke 7 Death Battle! Vegeta - Height: 5″6 Weight: 123 lbs Noticeable Features: Large, Spikey, and Black Widows Peak Hair, Muscular, Battle Armor. Plus Goku has instant transmission. But if this was turned off he would be the greatest sayian warrior. And yes, it is an unfair advantage. Oh, perhaps that's true. The Saiyan Prince, in particular, cannot stand Goku … As far as saiyan saga. How so? I have to assume Goku has had more combat training and experience, even if only a little. Yes, Vegeta was amped but so too was Goku. Each Saiyan had their time to shine. goku … It is a potential advantage they can use. Anonymous. 7.1 Fight! So, Goku really is the only one who had an unfair advantage in the fight. Vegeta has decades of real combat experience vs Sauske and has dealt with a vast variety of special abilities as evidence in Saiyan Saga when he mentions he had seen something similar to the Kaioken attack used by Goku. 150 x 50 = 7500. Can anyone else who has seen this movie either confirm or deny the claim below? If Goku wanted to win more, he might have been winning instead, who knows, but it wouldn't have been by much unless he resorted to SSJ3. Demonstrative or not, we both know that is extremely out of character for Goku to hold back on an 'interesting' opponent, and opponent who can really test his skills. According to your logic every fight in DBZ is unfair, and now every victory is lessened. ?If Goku had went 3 and just stompped Vegeta, then we could just say Goku win's. Vegeta easily. Goku admits both him and Vegeta would be killed by him...thus making gohan the strongest at that point, but then he slacked off.. Goku wouldn’t have to become a 10 to match Vegeta, so when they come together their base power is 150. I'll consider actually posting later explaining why. It never told about which one is preferred by Vegeta, but with his higher initial PL, he probably learned how to fly very soon, so fighting only on ground would be a little restriction to him. That's a fact Toriyama can't contradict without rewriting the Buu Saga. It just seems like Vegeta is truly the more powerful hero…Goku is just the protagonist. Vegeta tells Goku that he cannot beat him with attacks like that, as Duplicate Vegeta aggressively pushes Goku back. I don't think Ultimate is that far ahead. Fight was already put on hold when Vegeta knocked Goku out. 1 Description 2 Interlude 3 Goku 4 Batman 5 Intermission 6 Fight 7 Conclusion Season 1, Episode 3!! 1 decade ago. Personally, I would say Goku wins the majority. I've just looked at the Kanzenshuu rating of Super Saiyan 3 and it states that the form is actually 4 times more powerful than the Super Saiyan 2 form but that could be a mistranslation. Every form Vegeta achieved, Goku also achieved it as well. Correct. 0 0. Robert M. 1 decade ago. Goku won first, the second was a draw. , the anime rivalry of the century! Comparing 'SSJ2' to SSJ3 is out of the question to even argue about Vegeta suppose superiority on BotG (which isnt even cannon), when the rest of the sayans (including Vegeta) choose Goku to become the SSG anyway. Jiren no diff'd Goku and Vegeta at literally their very best at the same time(pre UI), while massively holding back. Goku at Freeza saga was still could fight better on ground than in air. Sure, if he was angered he may have been more aggressive, but the fact still stands that he (likely) wasn't holding back yet was squashed. Goku and Vegeta . Press question mark to learn … The other sayains do the same to gohan. That's why professional sports aren't stopped even if one team dominates the other. I dunno. You will receive a link and will create a new password via email. So I give it to Beerus at this point, but we haven't seen all of Black yet, and those are just my estimations of Goku and Vegetas strength at this point. 10.12% (17 votes) 17. In any case, the form increases the user's power 4 fold and that's more than the Super Saiyan 2 form does. 1st time: Vegeta clearly would have legitimately beat Goku….had it not been for Yajirobe cutting off his tail, or Gohan and Krillen messing around with the spirit bomb. I only remember that being in the Other World, Goku doesn't really get tired that fast, or at all. In the manga, Kakarot was born on Planet Vegeta three years before its destruction, while in the anime Goku was born shortly before the destruction of the planet. And, I don't think Goku even came out on top. @galvador: Whatever.Ultimate Gohan severely outclasses SSJ3 Goku. Vegeta tricked Goku, then used a sneak attack to KO him so he could finish Buu alone. Couldn't be said better.FTR: Goku wins. Death Battle! Not even once? Much higher than base Gogeta. The Saiyan warriors in the Dragon Ball Universe are always up for a fight and that's down to their heritage. Only way this is a "could go either way" is if he handicaps Goku more and equalizes skill and what not. I would say in a even match, if one of the two individuals was amped and had more motivation to win the fight than that individual would be considered to have been on the losing end of the fight, Not exactly sure how Goku was amped, I certainly wouldn't consider being dead a amp, I don't believe it increases your power any, but we can both agree that Vegeta was and if Spopovich and Yamu are any indication, it was quite the amp. Topic. It doesn't matter if you think Goku was holding back. I know this fight is only taking them as they were at the end of Z, but in BotG, Vegeta showed a clear superiority over Goku. I also dont think, even though is not relevant, that Goku would ever use his "full" power, when in fact he tend to hold back in the beginning of the fights to learn his opponent moves and power level (i.e. Because I'm sure there power increase when the die and get close to death. Which is okay really, I'm not saying he was "holding back", just that since he wasnt angry, he wouldnt really be able to use 100% of his power anyway - like Vegeta did when he got mad by Bills slapping Bulma. Vegeta plays dirty and relies on rushing in with brute force all the time, but as a wise man (you know who I'm talking about) once said: "It takes more than strength to win a fight.". So Goku Black being an 8 would be enough to do, what we've seen. BotG kind of craps all over the Goku supporters arguments. I would definitely count that as a win for Goku. Now I would say that at most Goku and Vegeta are at 7.5. The number of times Vegeta, Gohan, and Goku have stepped up in dire situations and found a completely new transformation to outfox the enemy is hilarious. The most modern version of the characters apply. 7.2 Ko! User Info: Engorgio. Too much candy: Man dies from eating black licorice. So has had more time to train. Just because Goku is a super saiyan 3 does not mean he is 4 times stronger than super saiyan 2 Vegeta. Duplicate Vegeta is destroyed. Debate.org is a dynamic social community where you can voice your opinion on today’s hottest issues. That's actually the exact reason unless i'm completely mistaken. Goku remains in base structure as it is not his style to battle at 100% immediately he needs to test his opponent’s strength.. Goku … I'd say Goku will be barley alive after the fight but takes the majority. Vegeta has beaten Goku every time they have fought. But anyone is more intelligent than Goku outside of battle. True, Dragon Ball Z is notorious for inconsistency but I don't think this applies. Z fighters vs Vegeta = Vegeta lost, couldn’t fight or move anymore. and Vegeta didn't. Goku ended up dying along with his brother Raditz in their battle, so it's debatable whether this would count as a win for Goku. This is the same buu that Gohan was throwing around like a rag doll. Wiz: Heroes that are battling it out today but which one will come out on top? While Goku usually takes things for granted, Vegeta is someone who takes everything seriously. SSJ2 Post Zeta Gohan>=SSJ2 Goku(this one is iffy but most likely Gohan), yea ure right. goku 4 sure, even tho vegeta fights dirty, he loses control way to easy, goku gets even more powered up at the prospect of a challange. I think you have a completely different view on what's unfair. In the end, Vegeta admits that Goku better than him. Vegeta has beaten Goku every time they have fought. Didn't it have no clear winner and then it got broken up? So, Goku really is the only one who had an unfair advantage in the fight. 2nd time: They both kind of 'cheated' in this fight. Goku and Duplicate Vegeta both power up and deliver strong blows, which causes a huge shockwave. I mean he was already injured….. That's easy - Goku is the main character. Like Goku, his arduous training regimen has allowed him to transform into more powerful Super Saiyan forms, particularly his Super Saiyan Blue … How not? Goku wouldn’t have to become a 10 to match Vegeta, so when they come together their base power is 150. 6 years ago. They were both fighting at their full, but yes obviously Vegeta wanted the win more, considering the fact that he was winning the fight. naruto/sasuke..... justplaying they will lose..... 0 0. However, it is unfair to have outside help in a one on one match which is exactly what Goku had. The logic with the knife is more like using something that's powerful and not a part of you. Ok, but i'm still not getting how that really counts as prep. Vegeta … The dual team has a speed advantage I believe and their power boosted forms would be a huge strain on Batman, and the longer Batman uses higher level strength in the suit the faster he dies. 1 decade ago. Taking away his tail but letting Vegeta keep his would be like a fight where Goku could go SSJ2 and Vegeta could only go SSJ. (Manga) Frieza was completely stomped by Goku after he turned Super Saiyan, now it's unfair. 1.guys supporting vegeta must be blind and missguided..vegeta might have been in a lot more fights but goku is lot more wiser..vegeta has no tactic he just jumps in and gets beaten(vs cell, vs frieza), 2.goku is and always have been a lot stronger than vegeta(he was a ssj3 when he fought against majin vegeta, he just didnt transform to hurt the little bitches pride), 3.goku is the protagonist(no way in hell someone is stronger than him). Gohan's not even close to the strongest. Whis 2. Tail = Great Ape = Multiply power level by 10 folds. Goku would win because while they both use their emotions to guide them in battle, Vegeta lets his emotions get in the way too often. Duplicate Vegeta fires a barrage of energy blasts at Goku, who manages to block them. Goku always has help, as he does in all his fights. More skilled. But he only had experience from ruling other planet. If you argue one had an "unfair" advantage because they can "transform", then it's pretty much the same argument with Goku being able to "power up" ("transform") every encounter with the Kaio-Ken. 2). @omnicrono: I wouldn't say more like a lot but so slightly.IIRC Piccolo has said Vegeta is a better fighter but I'm blurry on it.Honestly this battle is answered by SSJ2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta fight.Can go either way. Anonymous. Bills woke up, had dinner, talked to Weiss, and then learned that Frieza was defeated by Saiyan. Vegeta beat Goku up 100%, just didn’t kill him. And, BotG is canon. Yet Vegeta in a weaker form and weaker power level overall manages to last longer than Goku does in a much more powerful form. Vegeta gets angry when Bills slap his wife and proceeds to hit Bills a few times, when Goku SSJ3 couldnt do anything when he challenged Bills to a 'demonstrative' fight on Kai' planet. Taking all of that into consideration, it would seem as if Goku had the better showing and would be shown superior, overall and given the OP circumstances. How much sense does that make? Relevance. Vegeta is a lot older than Goku. It would be nice if they showed more of vegeta when he was a kid. No, he didn't. Vegeta would have killed Goku regardless if it wasn't for outside help. We can argue feats all we want (which Goku has far better of FTR) but in-universe, Vegeta would never be superior. @galvador: 1. I recall him commenting on SSJ 3 and time and him being dead. so determination can't give us a clue of who could win. Bills was clearly stronger than him from the get-go, so Goku, being the natural fighter that he is, would've powered up right? I don't recall anyone winning that fight? He didn't 'prep' himself to fight Goku at all. Goku always has help, as he does in all his fights. Vegeta is the better fighter but in terms of power Goku wins I don't think Vegeta would last long against SSJ3 but since morals are on Goku might fight on even terms which might give Vegeta the edge. So, why couldn't Vegeta just have become more powerful than Goku in BotG?? Carl B. But even that wasn't on fair grounds really, since Vegeta still had his tail while Goku didn't. We've basically NEVER seen Goku fight an opponent he's on equal terms with; he's basically always underpowered, and then uses his spirit to become stronger and more skilled and overpower them. I think more proof points to Goku being overhyped throughout the series actually. Bills is by definition a god level being able to obliterate the much more powerful Super Saiyan 3 form in one finger flick and one karate chop. Here, this is all the confirmation you need: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imiryMHYPB0, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY7g5R7gE8c. Goku wins. And Nappa was no help at all. @limilicious: him going SSJ3 to the kids is filler just a heads up. Why does a Super Saiyan 3 have to be more powerful than a Super Saiyan 2? It's a part of his power set, like a transformation into a super saiyan. Vegeta obliterates mountains with relative ease in the Frieza … I mean like at the end of gt, when they both went ssj4. I would definitely say that Goku's battle instinct has shown superior results than Vegeta's battle tactics. Every other Saigon Vs Goku and Vegeta. Vegeta's sole reason for existence is to lose to Goku. ... Who can win this Luffy VS Goku … He didn't finish the fight with a cheap shot, they agreed to finish their fight to fight Majin Buu together. Gohan at the end is just wasted potential...GT made him and Trunks the biggest jokes. Ƭӈє SuicidαԼ Ɗrαgøη . @limilicious: I think it was linked to his time limit or some such, he didn't go SSJ 3 cause otherwise he would have ran out of time...or something. in Dragonball Z, fights lost their technicity, they become more a race of power, strength and speed, the element of surprise and new techniques was lost and no more used. At base level though he is probably only at Full Power Namek Frieza. It was stupid for Toriyama to have Vegeta do better than Goku as a SSJ2 against Bills when ABC power logic has been the name of the game in DBZ fights. I was referring to ultimate gohan :D. @reaverlation: i couldnt agree more but i think u went a little too far..ultimate gohan is undoubtedly the strongest individual in dbz but i thnk theres not that big of a difference between ultimate gohan and ssj 3 goku.. @galvador: yes there is.SSJ3 Goku isn't near Gohan in power. How do you gauge it? Even after a three man tag effort for the spirit bomb, Vegeta was still not defeated. Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta, however, put up a pretty impressive fight against Bills. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2012/09/26/toeis-press-release-for-upcoming-dragon-ball-z-movie/. When Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta, Goku survived as he was being sent to Earth. Vegeta, as an ssj1, was more powerful or just as powerful as ssj2 Gohan. It is a good showing because it showed his attacks surpass Goku's atmospheric sense. Then Vegeta goes on to make Bills work for his win a little and completely blows the multipliers out of the water. (tool)Kaio-Ken = Doubles power level. Completely different situations that has happened in the past a few times (i.e. 5.95% (10 votes) 10. While neither would ever even think about giving up, Goku's will has allowed him to keep on pushing even when every odd is against him. There is logic behind the idea with the knife but the analogy isn't that good. Goku always has help, as he does in all his fights. 7.2 Ko! 'Dragon Ball' Reveals Who Would Win a Gogeta vs. Vegito Fight. It's a technique that is used by Goku but you can think of it as the boxer tells the opponent that the boxer is going to grab a knife then runs outside the ring and charges into the locker room to grab a knife and runs back to the ring to fight against the opponent. Everyone seems to forget that Goku is also a genius at battle strategy. Vegeta would have killed Goku regardless if it wasn't for outside help. To the people debating about vegeta and goku at the end of the buu saga did vegeta not get a boost before the final fight due to dying? Posted by 3 hours ago. Goku is the only one with the unique ability between the two. Speaking on that, he even wanted to end the series after namek but was compelled by fans, and bosses alike to continue on. It wouldn't make sense for Vegeta to obtain it while he was alive. Dragon ball fans might be thinking that ssj goku vs ssj vegeta r equal and vegeta fanboys would be thinking that ssj vegeta is wayyy stronger than ssj goku always. Goku vs Vegeta was an epic fight! Goku achieved the SSJ3 form in other world, and could maintain it indefinitely, because his ki was used differently then it was on earth. he wouldn't even need Vegeta. Vegeta would have killed him if it were not for his Gohan, Krillin, and the fat guy jumping in. That is why he said it was technically a win. Is that unfair? The fact that the OP has to equalize power just brings Goku down to Vegeta's level in power. Ok, in SSJ2 Vegeta vs SSJ2 Goku, Goku got put down by Vegeta. Goku win, he learned many techniques from various people from Earth, to other planet and through out heaven. I know this fight is only taking them as they were at the end of Z, but in BotG, Vegeta showed a clear superiority over Goku. 19 Answers. This was the whole "different situations" thing, that you even admitted. @darthaznable: This is Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku I'm talking about. Vegeta took a punch for the face from bills, when ss3 goku did not. Source(s): Seen all of DBZ and rad every naruto manga chapter. Then as majin vegeta, when he first reached super saiyan 2, he is much more powerful than super saiyan 2 gohan. @pope052: Goku is very unreliable aswell as he keeps getting injured, dies or has to travel extremely long distances to help his friends. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Which One is Going to Win?! there is a big difference between fights in Dragonball and Dragonball Z. in Dragonball we couldn't tell who would win, the fight was always full of suprises, new techniques, and strategies, i really enjoyed watching those fights. in Dragonball Z, fights lost their technicity, they become more a race of power, strength and speed, the element of surprise and new techniques was lost and no more used. Will the favorite son of Krypton, Superman (Repped by James) find the strength of an Octillion Megaton blast is enough to defeat the Super Saiyan Goku (Repped by Ray) or will the favorite son of the planet Vegeta win … And when the fight starts, is Vegeta rooting for…his clone?! Vegeta admitting Goku is the number one, was a filler, but I think it sum it up well. Goku begins his battle to the death with Duplicate Vegeta, and they turn out to be evenly matched. If they were to have an equal fight, on equal ground, the writers would never let Vegeta win. Granted he slacked off and Vegeta trained, but still, it proves my point. Now, in regards to the fight with Bills, Super Saiyan 3 is simply much more powerful than a Super Saiyan 2 can ever be. Goku even defeated people stronger than him, while vegeta always losed if they have more power level. Gohan couldn't even defeat Cell without Goku having his hand in it somehow. 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